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	<title>Comments on: Flex on Java to now leverage AppFuse</title>
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		<title>By: John Mark</title>
		<link>http://blog.code-adept.com/2009/01/18/flex-on-java-to-now-leverage-appfuse/#comment-356</link>
		<dc:creator>John Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 02:37:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a discussion on Matt Raible&#039;s blog about using graniteDS, weborb instead of blaze DS - check it out http://raibledesigns.com/rd/entry/weborb_have_you_ever_heard</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a discussion on Matt Raible&#8217;s blog about using graniteDS, weborb instead of blaze DS &#8211; check it out <a href="http://raibledesigns.com/rd/entry/weborb_have_you_ever_heard" rel="nofollow">http://raibledesigns.com/rd/entry/weborb_have_you_ever_heard</a></p>
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		<title>By: alain lowet</title>
		<link>http://blog.code-adept.com/2009/01/18/flex-on-java-to-now-leverage-appfuse/#comment-192</link>
		<dc:creator>alain lowet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 12:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello, i hope i don&#039;t disturb the discussion, but i read that CMH was a weborb user, so i have a little question for him...
CMH, can you tell me how to access a mysql db from weborb, using a java server and flex? because no samples are working...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello, i hope i don&#8217;t disturb the discussion, but i read that CMH was a weborb user, so i have a little question for him&#8230;<br />
CMH, can you tell me how to access a mysql db from weborb, using a java server and flex? because no samples are working&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: CMH</title>
		<link>http://blog.code-adept.com/2009/01/18/flex-on-java-to-now-leverage-appfuse/#comment-184</link>
		<dc:creator>CMH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 21:14:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy,
I think it is a good move for you to use AppFuse. However, I saw that you are using BlazeDS. I know that its compelling to use BlazeDS since is is Adobe&#039;s offering but you should consider some of its main competitors such as GraniteDS or WebOrb. One thing that is still an issue with these apps is Hibernate lazy loading. GraniteDS has that problem solved, I am not sure about WebOrb and hibernate but WebOrb has a lot of codegen build it to build an activerecord data access layer from an existing database. And both BlazeDS and GraniteDs will create your actionscript classes from your pojo&#039;s.

Personally I use WebOrb because I am working in a .net company right now and they offer a .net, java, php, and ruby platform. 

Just food for thought, i know that the hibernate issue is a dead end for a lot of projects, then they have to go to webservices or REST (which isn&#039;t too bad in most cases).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy,<br />
I think it is a good move for you to use AppFuse. However, I saw that you are using BlazeDS. I know that its compelling to use BlazeDS since is is Adobe&#8217;s offering but you should consider some of its main competitors such as GraniteDS or WebOrb. One thing that is still an issue with these apps is Hibernate lazy loading. GraniteDS has that problem solved, I am not sure about WebOrb and hibernate but WebOrb has a lot of codegen build it to build an activerecord data access layer from an existing database. And both BlazeDS and GraniteDs will create your actionscript classes from your pojo&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Personally I use WebOrb because I am working in a .net company right now and they offer a .net, java, php, and ruby platform. </p>
<p>Just food for thought, i know that the hibernate issue is a dead end for a lot of projects, then they have to go to webservices or REST (which isn&#8217;t too bad in most cases).</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Anderson</title>
		<link>http://blog.code-adept.com/2009/01/18/flex-on-java-to-now-leverage-appfuse/#comment-171</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Anderson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:37:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did consider using FNA and do admire the goal of what Adobe is trying to accomplish with FNA, but decided to go with AppFuse instead for several reasons.  First and foremost was the that FNA didn&#039;t pass my 15 minute rule for a framework, which means that if I can get it working within 15 minutes of trying it, it&#039;s very likely that my readers won&#039;t either and will be frustrated.  FNA is a fairly new project and while I was able to eventually get it to work I doubt many of my readers will want to put forth the same effort I did to make a sample application work.  
AppFuse on the other hand is a very mature and stable product with a much larger community backing it.  So even if the reader does encounter an issue while trying to follow along in the book, they are much more likely to get timely support from the AppFuse community.  AppFuse is also a fairly well known framework in the Java community, which is my primary audience for this book.  Chances are good that anyone currently using AppFuse, or even those who aren&#039;t, should be able to take and adapt the knowledge gained from the book and apply it to their own specific environment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did consider using FNA and do admire the goal of what Adobe is trying to accomplish with FNA, but decided to go with AppFuse instead for several reasons.  First and foremost was the that FNA didn&#8217;t pass my 15 minute rule for a framework, which means that if I can get it working within 15 minutes of trying it, it&#8217;s very likely that my readers won&#8217;t either and will be frustrated.  FNA is a fairly new project and while I was able to eventually get it to work I doubt many of my readers will want to put forth the same effort I did to make a sample application work.<br />
AppFuse on the other hand is a very mature and stable product with a much larger community backing it.  So even if the reader does encounter an issue while trying to follow along in the book, they are much more likely to get timely support from the AppFuse community.  AppFuse is also a fairly well known framework in the Java community, which is my primary audience for this book.  Chances are good that anyone currently using AppFuse, or even those who aren&#8217;t, should be able to take and adapt the knowledge gained from the book and apply it to their own specific environment.</p>
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		<title>By: magomarcelo</title>
		<link>http://blog.code-adept.com/2009/01/18/flex-on-java-to-now-leverage-appfuse/#comment-169</link>
		<dc:creator>magomarcelo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 16:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a longtime AppFuse 1 and 2 user, I think you could have better luck going with something more geared towards Flex only instead of all the web frameworks available, like the blazeds-spring maven archetype from project FNA (http://code.google.com/p/fna/) where I did some contributions</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a longtime AppFuse 1 and 2 user, I think you could have better luck going with something more geared towards Flex only instead of all the web frameworks available, like the blazeds-spring maven archetype from project FNA (<a href="http://code.google.com/p/fna/" rel="nofollow">http://code.google.com/p/fna/</a>) where I did some contributions</p>
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